8b-Heaven Machine issues-will we be worth the trouble?

I think i could convince some people that its possible humans could eventually eradicate death and even make life heaven like.   But what is much harder to believe is that these future beings would be able to and actually want to go to the trouble of inviting the beings who have already passed on to their place.

Putting the how aside for the moment, the why is also a big obstacle.  It is much like the effort we would go for for people who lived a few hundred years ago.  We build statues and read books about some of them but thats about it.   This future race would have to be very kind and compassionate to even think about devising a method to bring all the past beings to their paradise.

It would be like in our present day giving someone the keys to your car and asking them to bring it back.

So add this to yet another loop the project must jump through.  Along with the technology to eradicate death and make life much better, it is needed that they humans are  kind  and thoughtful of the dead.

In any case when i think back to EL, it is just this capability that I used to deal with her death: I cannot in the present time do anything to save her but I will work with others to make things better in the future so we can come back for her.    Most likely in a few months or so I may have other things to concern me beyond EL.    And its not a promise because I can’t guarantee it.  But  despite the odds being against it, I really think this is very important to do.  And again not just for EL but all of them.

I am not sure yet how to emphasize to the future beings the importance of “going back”.  As of now an individual’s  personal happiness does not always coincide with their compassion for others.  It could be they even become less concerned.  It could be that without the memory of pain, suffering both of body and mind,  humans would be uncaring.

So tentatively i believe it will be essential for future beings to have knowledge  and actual first hand experience of what suffering is and has been for multitudes of sentients.  Would this then make their lives miserable as well?  No not if they could see the [heaven machine] as a resolution to the suffering.   The future beings could still have their party if you will and would also have acknowledgement of the prior lives  that went through much to get to what is for them “here”.

Of course just knowing the pain and feeling it is not enough.  They would also need to add up that it is valuable for the past beings to also be free from suffering.  Part of this would be deductive, part instinctive and the other well i guess would require the boddhisatvabot itself to guide them towards.

Yet still without natural empathy why go to the trouble of experience the suffering and then looking to resolve it both for themselves and the others who have passed?  Why not instead just enjoy their hedonistic pleasures.    On this i guess i am banking that to reach the higher happiness would mean a greater awareness, and a greater awareness would mean stronger connections to other beings.

Either this awareness would be by the boddhisatvabot alone or in conjunction with the other sentient beings.

What i suggest is for now we bootstrap the process (knowing it could take a few hundred  years or more to realize) and also include a message in a bottle if you will as part of the process.  Hopefully someone will find it.

It bears repeating many times throughout this blog that sure, lots of us may not to be bothered by the future beings and just die a normal natural death.  And lots of us may be wary that the message in the bottle could reach a not so kind and pleasant being.  I acknowledge those concerns and have them myself.   But it also bears repeating once again that for many of us death was far too unkind, unpleasant and unjust and we must do something about it not just for the future times but however possible for all times.









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